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  • pappusheth
    05-17 06:25 PM
    done..




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  • knnmbd
    07-07 01:19 PM
    By exempt, you mean exempt from the cap, right? Does this mean that you still need an employer to sponsor you even if you have an advanced degree? Or can you self-petition as in the CIR?
    Exempt from Cap only.No self-petition benefit(yet)




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  • superdude
    09-19 04:59 PM
    I am with you.

    To everyone who thinks rallies dont make a difference, as described here : http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13583

    This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.

    I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".

    Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.

    Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:

    1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.

    2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser SKIL bill because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.

    3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.

    Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).




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  • NolaIndian32
    04-27 12:17 PM
    We are now up to $3236!!!

    Go IV!!



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  • arihant
    07-08 06:41 AM
    Just to clarify. You say that "a person with an MBA plus a 4 year bachelors from a US univ. will be exempt" but you don't really need the 4 year bachelors from a US university. The MBA from a U.S. university is enough to be exempt, even if your bachelor degree is from outside the U.S.

    You are right. I typed it wrong. I really meant to say "4 years of bachelors from anywhere (which is equivalent to a US bachelors degree)". I was making the point about four years because some non-us bachelors degrees are 3 years, and they do not accept 3 years + masters as equivalent to US bachelors + masters as the number of years of schooling would be one year less.




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  • spicy_guy
    06-10 04:50 PM
    And funniest thing is, if there is any spillover, that happens from least trafficked categories.
    Not the other way around as how it is supposed to be, logically...

    I understand the frustration. Yes, its not fair et all.

    EB I is really beaten up and no respite at the corner. And yes, it looks awkward when even late EB2 filers going way ahead ... Of course, no offense...But just wish EB 3 too has the same treatment....

    Oh boy, its sad anyways.



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  • Dhundhun
    05-26 02:00 PM
    I am not sure what you mean...

    Michael chertoff answered the same in simple terms, in my reply references are there.




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  • sundevil
    05-31 04:25 PM
    Yes, a majority Vote.

    "The motion to Lay on the Table is undebatable, and requires only a majority vote, notwithstanding the fact that if not taken from the table the question is suppressed."

    Is there some procedure that can undo "lie on the table"



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  • eeezzz
    03-24 10:26 AM
    I agree , especially if it fits majority of them ( and the 'types' of them ).
    One needs real diversity in US population. There are too many here from EU.

    It's really meaningless for you to keep talking about "too many here from EU". This country is formed by those people from EU(and American Indians) to start with. If you were here two hundred years ago, you were part of them, no one will ask you for GC. Those people who came to this land two hundred years ago and their descendants are now recognized as Americans. They are no longer English, German, French, Italian...etc. They are Americans and this is their country which is called United State of America.
    When this country starts the immigration law, does the law say only people from Asia is limited to 7% and not for people from EU ?
    If this country today has no limitation with immigration and welcome anyone to come and stay forever at any time. This country will not be a great country anymore and I am sure many of you will not care to come to this land anymore but seek for another place.




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  • h1techSlave
    04-30 10:00 AM
    Contribution from MD is just 100 bucks; that's a shame. Our neighbors (VA) has contributed a decent 400 bucks. Guys in MD, please wake up.

    Thank You to IV members who are contributing:
    gconmymind-51, snathan-50, smanikandan-100, ahasan-100, MunnaBhai-100, vineet-100, rameshk75-50, mariusp-35, gcfordesi-50, belmontboy-100, Houstonguy-200, vikasw-50, kshitijnt-100, pune_guy-100, walking_dude-100, prasha98-100, ivvm-50, manojp4-100, Pineapple-100, sammyb-50, ca_gc-100, santb1975-100, nav_saini-100, gcpadmavyuh-100, pcs-100, akbose-100, eastwest-50, ubetman-100, pmurgai-100, deba-100, 5-Jun-100, wa_Saiprasad-100, chaukas-100, arunmohan-50, jimytomy-100, aspiration-50, prshah102-100, czar_the_king-100, maverick6993-100, eb3_nepa-100, kumar_77-50, Alien-100, nagio-100, vin13-100, manja-100, loti_GC-50, sonaliak-100, mdmd10-100, surabhi-100, m306m-100, malaGCPahije-100, patbose-50, clif-100, goel_ar-50, djit71-100, Jitamitra-100, rajtp-100, espoir-50, rp0lol-100, kicca-50, rajmalhotra-100, anuraj1234-100, yetanotherguyinline-100, MI member 1-100, MI member 2-100, NolaIndian32-50, poreddyp-100, Karthikthiru-100, pshah-100, tapukakababa-100, h1techSlave-100, uffyegc-100, rameshk75-50, Nagireddi-100, srinivas_o-100, nc14-50, aa2aa-100, add78-100, jbr-100, jayleno-100, naidu2543-50, vansvenkat-100

    Statewise:
    ca--1401
    tx--1050
    mi--650
    nj--450
    va--400
    fl--335
    il--300
    wa--300
    ny--200
    al--200
    ma--200
    co--200
    az--150
    oh--150
    mo--150
    sd--100
    sc--100
    pa--100
    mn--100
    ky--100
    in--100
    ga--100
    wi--100
    md--100
    nc--50
    delaware--50
    la--50
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  • Abhinaym
    01-13 02:48 PM
    my friend.. thanx for your kind words
    u and ur non-retrogressed friend have my support for an expedited process since u got US advanced degree that make u better suited for this market.. u should be talking STEM.. i am talking about the disparity in available opportunities to come here back in our homelands. Individual examples aside, I trust statistics, you'll find that each year a handful of giant offshoring companies grab more than half the H1 quota.. is it my streotyping imagination that infosys, wipro and satyam don't hold job fairs in Romania and they only make these opportunities available in retrogressed countries?


    Hello! Infosys, Wipro and all those companies are NOT the main sponsors of green cards, which is the reason we're in this forum, no? Most of the sponsors are US based small and medium sized companies.

    I don't care how many visas they get, the fact is that it doesn't affect me! I neither have a job with them nor I benefited from them grabbing a bulk of visas. End of the day I'm held back because of where I was born.

    Look, this may be hard for you to understand, but just because those companies are in my country didn't and doesn't help me one iota. Everyone's on their own here.

    Thanks for understanding that I have an advanced degree.



    and don't give me the condescending excuse that if these companies only hire in retrogressed companies then talented, educated people must only exist in the retrogressed countries.

    Anyway, i had this discussion many times here .. radical issue where people hardly change their minds..

    peace..

    That is ridiculous. I never said that nor I will. The reason is because those companies MORE people exist in those countries, and THEY'RE CHEAPER and poorer, that's something I do expect you to understand.

    Did stereotyping help you in your discussions earlier?




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  • GCard_Dream
    03-20 06:35 PM
    We are not talking about what's beneficial to the United States. What we are discussing is what the law says. It doesn't matter if it is beneficial to the United States or not, if it is the law of the land then everyone has to abide by it; even the government. I think everyone has a different opinion on what's beneficial for this country. If you talk to the people at numbersusa.com, they will say that H1B program and employment based immigration is the worst thing that happened to this country and should be stopped right at this moment yet we think that this is the best thing for this country. Go figure.

    By the way, you seem to suggest that everyone in ROW is unskilled professional. Nothing can be further from the truth. I don't know where you get your facts from but it sounds like you certainly need some help on that front.

    It does make sense that the overflow numbers are given to higher preference categories in single state oversubscribed countries. When you think about it, will that not be the most beneficial to United States? Who would you prefer .... and Unskilled professional from a ROW category or a skilled worker from an Oversubscribed country. I would gather it would make more sense to give the opportunity to the higher skilled since the benefit to US will be higher



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  • akhilmahajan
    10-21 11:33 AM
    Kudos to the MI chapter for their first chapter meet.
    I am sure it will act as a great motivating factor for the other chapters also.

    Lets keep the good work going on.

    GO IV GO.
    TOGETHER WE CAN.




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  • GCKaIntezar
    02-13 02:03 PM
    Very well responded Jay.

    I don't want to write in the forum just for the heck of it, but when I see non-sense posts like the one posted by a "talented leader", I just can't seem to stop. At some time, I just feel its not worth even 2 minutes of my time to read and respond to negative comments, but then I think these negative comments don't create a type of "Grass-root" org that we need. I'm starting to believe that people have no regard to whatever the "Volunteer" IV Core members are doing, they just like to post messages and induce negative discussions and when we feed the trolls, they get excited. So my point is - let's stop that. Let's not feed them - our time, our energy, our ideas.

    We need to promote more of "WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER", and each and every one of us "CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE". This can only happen with actions - Get active in State Chapters, post what you are doing there - that will create the sense of belonging and not by responding to every little negative comments that get posted.

    Ok enough already.

    -Sanjay



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  • Eb3_frustrated
    03-17 09:49 AM
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.2454:

    The proposed bill does not have guest worker provisions. Hope this thing survives the senate and most importantly the House




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  • RRG
    07-18 02:39 PM
    People like bigtime008 are loosers.

    They will think of themselves only. Characteristics of such peoiple are: Selfish

    Instead of celebrating the greater good for all, they are just worried about what they are getting out of it.
    These people join a group for security; but will always think only about themselves and will take every opportunity to demoralize the whole team.

    We know BEC is an issue and there is sympathy for them, but does it mean we want to stop 700K people with families not getting a chance to better their lives.



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  • eastindia
    01-13 11:14 AM
    I see a lot of boiling blood and nice thoughts, If we can find out How much it would cost to pull out a Half page or Full Page AD on prominent news paper like NY Times or WSJ etc. Work on and create a fullpage/half page ad that would be a good start in opening eyes of congress/common people.

    Any thoughts.

    Read
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/us/26moveon.html?_r=1

    Full page is for $65000 in section A New York Times.

    If you want for specific day, it is for $142,083

    Now, How much do you want to contribute to this amount?

    People on this thread think this is some joke. By pledging 1K you cannot even get a mosquito out of country cap. You need million dollar first to start.




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  • JunRN
    09-17 06:16 PM
    With what happened last July, it will be a long time before we see "C" on EB3. However, we can only hope that atleast the date listed is closer to date.




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  • pappu
    04-10 11:48 PM
    Thank you qasleuth. I did not even read the whole thread but this thread needs to be closed and some action needs to be taken against anti-IV elements.

    Folks, IV is a platform to come and work on the common goal. It is not a platform to come and abuse it by blaming it just because you do not have a green card till now. Come join us and help out. Be an active volunteer and work on daily basis with us to solve the problem and make IV better. We need more real workers on the ground than strategy advisers, critics and Management consultants.

    Enough said. Actions will speak louder than words and you need to get involved to tell us your ideas. If you are interested to actively participate send us an email (info at immigrationvoice.org) with your valid email address with your name, phone number and what you would like to do to help IV. We will welcome your active participation and assign you leadership roles if you want.

    The thread is closed.




    ramvinay
    06-14 10:03 AM
    Thank you all very much for answering my question , I feel much better now.
    Just a quick follow up.
    I am assuming she can continue to work on her OPT till we get our EAD cards or her H1?
    Thanks for your response.





    Yes, certainly your wife can apply for I-485, that has nothing to do with your whether your wife is on F-1 or H-1.
    Her H,F etc. status continues independently of the Adjustement of Status petition. (Yes she can file even while in F-1 as she is not the primary beneficiary but your dependent for I-485)

    Infact as soon as your wife get's her I-485 receipt, she is legally in status even if she loses her F, H etc. status.

    Moreover I can say all this since I know someone who is an exact similar situation.




    mirage
    02-11 08:43 PM
    Guys,
    There's no doubt CIR is going to be brought in this year. How much of it or any of it will get passed, is the issue. Congress, as last year is determined to amalgamate us with the illegals so they can freely oppose the bill and indirectly kill both kind of immigration. I think we should put all our resources towards lobbying and make as many friends on the hill as possible.



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